Mini-Roman ---------- In ancient times (60's and 70's) ---------------- In the original Roman system, the mini-Roman opening was 2C to show exactly any 4441 shape with 12-16 hcp. With a weak hand, responder signed off; and if opener is short in that suit, opener bids the next step. With a strong, game-forcing hand, responder uses a 2N response to ask for the singleton. The modern convention --------------------- Because most modern systems use 2C for some other meaning (eg in Standard American it's used for the strong opening, and in Big Club systems it's used for a natural club hand), the adopted mini-Roman convention is the 2D opening to show any 4441 hand with 11-15 hcp (the point count is almost always lower nowadays for every convention). Some players also include 5440 hands where the five card suit is either minor suit. Partner responds the same way as in "ancient times:" a cheap rebid in a suit or pass is a signoff. If responder has bid opener's singleton, opener bids the next step. With a strong hand responder bids 2N to ask for the shortness or jumps to game in a suit (which opener cannot correct). Over interference ----------------- Handling interference is easy for responder. Responder doubles to show a cooperative penalty hand-- ie, a hand with at least three trumps. Opener leaves in the double with a four carder or takes it out if that is his singleton. Fuzzy stuff ----------- I've never found what the Roman architects meant by the auction 2D - 3H/3S/4C. In my partnerships we've defined this as an invitational hand with a long suit. Perhaps this is not optimal, but then it doesn't come up often. RGB responses ------------- Here's a different set of responses that I've "lifted" from the newsgroup rec.games.bridge: (I've erased the original post) From alf@world.std.com Wed Feb 26 19:01:08 CST 1997 Article: 50564 of rec.games.bridge From: alf@world.std.com (alan d frank) Subject: Re: mini roman Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:11:54 GMT [erased original question] But if you do play it, opener should bid the suit below the singleton to enable responder to cue-bid the singleton as a further ask. You might try this set of responses if you play a more wide-ranging (11-15) 2D: 2D - 2NT - 3C = diamond shortage OR spade shortage with a minimum 3D - 3H = spade shortage 3S = D shortness, minimum 3NT = D shortness, maximum 3D = heart shortage 3H - 3S = minimum 3NT = maximum 3H = spade shortage, maximum 3S = club shortage, minimum 3NT = club shortage, maximum